Many Fleur collectors know the struggle... you found this really gorgeous doll somewhere in the wild, she's in great condition...but who is she??? Fleur dolls have no marks, besides the Logo Fleurs, no date of production, nothing! So how to identify her??? Is it even possible? If you ever searched the internet for Fleur dolls, you for sure stumbled upon the Fleurdolls webpage, that is currently under construction and the corresponding blog. This blog contains also a guide on how to identify Fleur dolls. It is really amazing to start with (click here to read it).

 I however thought, that it must be possible, to narrow these dolls more down.

 

Because when you look at these two pictures, although these Fleurs both having centerpart hair, they differ so much from each other.

 

So I made my online research, examinated every doll I have very thoroughly and consulted the amazing Angela from Vintage Fleur doll, who has any doll possible (and also impossible...but that will be a different blog post... ). And after many hours and hours of work, I was able to  create the following identification chart for Fleur dolls made in the 80s.

 

The key feature  for identification is the facemold. To make yourself familiar with the facemolds of 80s Fleur doll, click please here. Than I looked on the bodytype (to see all Fleur bodytypes click here) and finally on the hair style. Like this I can narrow the dolls down to just a few. Some dolls have additional unique features, which make it possible to identify them without any doubt. Their characteristic features are described next to the doll picture. 

This blog post is a work in progress as the more I learn about Fleur, the more dolls I own, the more variants I see which I am adding fluently.

 

 

Ballerina facemold

smallest head, flat back of head, slim face, typical azure blue eyes if not stated otherwise, typically long lashes, used for dolls from 1980 to 1984

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

center part hair

Rainy Day 

  • small red lips, tend to fade into orange
  • middlelong wavy hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • glue residue on top of hair where hat was glued on

Secretary 

  • Small red lips, tend to fade into orange
  • hair short and wavy (blonde, brunette, ginger)
  • pale eyebrows
  • often greasy face
  • skintone tends to darken due to aging

Ballerina 1. edition

  • small  red lips
  • small hart head
  • vinyl tends to darken
  • middelong curly hair (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

Ballerina 2. edition

  • bigger red lips
  • middlelong wavy hair, sparely rooted, layered haircut (blonde, brunette, ginger)

Florida 

  • small red lips
  • long wavy hair (strawberryblonde, pale blonde, brunette)
  • tanned skin

Parade 1. edition

  • small red lips
  • middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

My Fair Lady 1. edition

  • small red lips
  • bigger painted eyes
  • middlelong wavy, full hair (pale blonde, ginger brunette)  
  • glue residue on head

Popstar 1. edition

  • small red lips
  • short wavy hair, sparly rooted only at upper half of the head (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • vinyl tends to darken

Shopping  1. edition

  • bigger red lips
  • short curly hair in blonde, ginger and brunette
  • glue residue on head 

Sunny Day 1. edition

  • bigger red lips
  • middlelong curly hair in blonde, ginger and brunette
  • glue residue on head

Wedding  1. edition

  • small red lips
  • Middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • glue residue on hair
  • dark vinyl, paling eyebrows.

Wedding 2. edition

  • bigger red lips
  • Middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl, high color face.

Kitties 1. edition

  • small red lips
  • hair short and curly (blonde, brunette, ginger). 

Aerobic 1. edition

  • small or bigger lips in orange or red
  • goldenblonde, brunette, red
  • different rooting patterns
  • typical strand of hair rooted behind the ears

Miss World 

  • small or bigger red lips
  • middlelong wavy hair, only brunette ? (promotional picture with red and blonde hair)
  • pierced ears

hair with fringe

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Baby Nurse 1. edition

  • small red lips
  • azure blue or navy blue eyes
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • short, curly hair with fringe (brunette, goldenblonde, ginger)

 

 

Special Offer 1983

  • small red lips
  • azure blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • very fluffy short curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted only on the outer hairline, no hairplugs in the middle
  • arms don't bend

Sidepart hair

In Concert 1982 

  • small red lips
  • long, very full hair (dark brown, blonde, ginger)
  • vinyl tends to darken, paling brows

80s standart body

hair with fringe

Jeans 1. edition

  • small red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted at outer hairline plus additional hairrow in the middle

 


Bighead Facemold

Very big head made of soft vinyl, small azure blue eyes, long lashes, small red lips that tend to fade, used for dolls made in 1981-1982


Ballerina body

Center part hair

Parade 2. edition

  • small red lips
  • middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

 

 

Kitties 2. edition

  • small red lips
  • hair middlelong and wavy (blonde, brunette, ginger). 

 

Ballerina 3. edition

  • small red lips
  • middlelong curly rooted, layered haircut (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

Aerobic facemold

wider face than Ballerina, somehow flat, small azure blue or navy blue oval eyes, used for dolls from 1983 to 1984


Ballerina body

centerpart hair

Aerobic 2. and later editions

  • small or big lips in orange or red
  • azure blue or navy blue eyes
  • long lashes, strongly curled
  • many haircolors and rooting patterns
  • strand of hair rooted behind the ears

Sunny Day 2. edition

  • small red lips
  • azure blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • middlelong curly hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)
  • glue residue on head

Popstar 2. edition

  • big red lips
  • azure blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • short wavy hair, sparly rooted only at upper half of the head (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

My Fair Lady 2. edition

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • middlelong wavy hair, honey blonde, brunette, ginger

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Travel 

  • small red lips
  • navy blue eyes?
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • fading eyebows often

Shopping 2. edition

  • big red lips
  • azure blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • short, full curly hair (blonde, ginger, brunette)
  • glue residue on top of head
  • vinyl tends to darken
  • fading eyebrows

Parade Fleur 2. edition

  • small red lips
  • azure blue eyes
  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong wavy hair (brunette, blonde, ginger)

Hair with fringe

photo by Angela
photo by Angela

Baby Nurse  second edition

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • short, open curly hair with fringe (brunette, goldenblonde, ginger)

80s Standart body

Sidepart hair

Famous Fashion 1. edition

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • middlelong lashes
  • very long, wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger, titian, chestnut brown)

hair with fringe

Jeans 2. edition

  • big red lips#
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted at outer hairline plus additional hairrow in the middle

Tennisstar facemold

wider face than Aerobic with rounder cheeks, head alltogether bigger, small round eyes, subtle eyeshadow, used for dolls from 1985 to 1986

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

Centerpart hair

Jazz Ballet 1. edition

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • Long wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)
  • vinyl tends to pale

Brides Happiness 1. edition 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • short or long lashes
  • usually strong eyeshadow, but can also be plain
  • heavy blush
  • middlelong wavy or curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Photo by Magda
Photo by Magda

Amazone 1. edition

  • big or small red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • no or subtle eyeshadow
  • wavy long hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • vinyl tends to pale

Jogging 1. edition

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • vinyl tends to pale

Tennisstar 

  • small red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • short lashes
  • no or subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Surfing 1986

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • stronger eyeshadow
  • long curly hair, very full (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)

 

 

 

 


Colourstar facemold

faceshape as Tennisstar, bigger oval eyes with longer lashes, heavier make up, used for dolls made end of 1985 to 1986

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

Centerpart hair

Jazz Ballet 2. edition

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • stronger eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

Brides Happiness 2. edition

  • big red lips
  • very long lashes
  • stronger eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • middlelong wavy or curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

 

 

 


Bubblecut

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Colourstar

  • big red lips
  • long or short lashes
  • very strong eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • short platinum curly bubblecut with colored streak at the front (yellow, pink, blue)
  • peachy vinyl

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Animal Doctor

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long, heavily curled lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

College 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes, less curled
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Grand Gala 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle or stronger eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

 

Amazone 2. edition

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • wavy long hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

Special Offer 

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jogging 2. edition

  • big red or orange lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • short or lomg lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

Sunshine facemold

head bigger than Colourstar, cheeks area wider, make up subtler, used for dolls in 1987


Ballerina Body

Centerpart hair

Sunshine 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • very long, straight hair, usually in platinum blonde, but more rare also in ginger
  • tanned skin

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Mount Everest 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

Jogging 3. edition

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Country Walk 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • short wavy hair (platinum, honeyblonde)
  • peachy vinyl
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Sweet Dreams 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (platinum, honeyblonde)
  • peachy vinyl

My First

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle or missing eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (only brunette?)
  • peachy vinyl

Tennis 

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

Photo by Magda
Photo by Magda

Amazone 3. edition

  • big red lips
  • navy blue eyes
  • long lashes
  • no eyeshadow
  • wavy long hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • peachy vinyl

By studying the facemold, the facial features, the hair style and the body you will be able to identify most of your dolls or at least to narrow them down to only a few. Otto Simon did use for some models the same dolls, but most of them are unique.

 

As always with Fleur dolls it's not always as easy at it seems... you will not be able to identify every doll with this chart. Sometimes Otto Simon used a batch of newer dolls for an older model and made a second, third or fourth edition. Some dolls from the early 80s, that supposed to be in a dark green box can be found in a light green box with no doll name written on it, probably from 1987. ... these dolls have for sure a later facemold and will not have a match in this chart. Also there are dolls, that shouldn't  exist, but here they are totally real...the unidentifiable mystery Fleurs. If you have a mystery Fleur, please let me know!!! A blog post about them will follow soon.

 

 

A special THANK YOU goes to Angela from Vintage Fleur doll, who made this Indentification chart possible by providing me her knowledge, comparing dolls that I don't own to identify their facemolds and by letting me use pictures of her dolls for this blog post. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!