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Fleur doll variants - Part 1: 1981 and 1982

....and why identiffication is so terribly hart!

The biggest task of all for a collector is to identify a doll, if she comes loose and nude. If you follow my blog, you have for sure read my post about Fleur Identification (see here). What I tried is to make a chart that makes it possible, to identify a loose Fleur doll or at least to narrow the possibilies down to only a few. I tried to simplify Fleur! However, the longer I collect and the more I talk to other collectors, the more I find dolls that don't match my chart. Because Fleur is not a simple doll!  And here is the reason why:

Otto Simon did more than one edition of most of the dolls, some were even produced over several years and each edition might have gotten a new facemold, facepaint and even hairstyle. Some did get a new box, some not. Sometimes the outfits had also new tweaks.

That's why I need to add much more dolls to my identification chart, to make it really work...which on the other hand is not simplified anymore but gets more and more complicated.

This blog post is about all the variants of dolls, that were made that I have seen so far. Most of the pictures from this post are borrowed from Worthpoint.com, a site that shows past Ebay listings. Sadly Worthpoint does not show the owner of the original listing, so if you find a photo of your listing here, please write me a mail (see bottom of page) and I will link to your Ebay profile or remove it if you wish!

The boxes

As far as I could find out, the first 80s Fleur dolls were sold in a dark green box with a cardboard flap at the site that showed a promo picture of the doll inside. This box was probably used untill 1983 and in late 1983 switched to a dark green box without the cardboard flap that often showed a small promo picture of the doll at the front (but not always).

Boxes with cardboard flap used for dolls from 1980 (and earlier) to 1983.
Boxes with cardboard flap used for dolls from 1980 (and earlier) to 1983.
Simple dark green boxes used for Fleur dolls from 1983-1986.
Simple dark green boxes used for Fleur dolls from 1983-1986.

The headmolds

If you want to see all headmolds used for Fleur dolls in the 80s, click here.

Headmolds which I refer to in this blog post are:

Ballerina facemold: First headmold of the 80s, small head, pointy chin, small eyes with usually long lashes, that are not strongly curled. Azure blue eyecolor. Usually small, red lips. The very early dolls could have tiny lips. Usually flat back of head. The vinyl often tends to darken a bit and the early heads are mostly hart. Blush placed on the lower side of the cheeks.

Aerobic facemold: Second headmold in the 80s, head still smaller than late Fleur dolls but wider than Ballerina face. Usually flat back of head. Oval eyes with azure blue eyecolor (untill 1984). Early dolls with the Aerobic mold had usually long lashes like Ballerina mold and small red lips. Later dolls with this mold (from 84) had shorter lashes that were more curled upwards shaped like a fan, a navy blue eyecolor and bigger lips. Vinyl could be hart or soft. Blush placed on the lower side of the cheeks.

Bighead facemold: Rare headmold, head is very big, comparable to the latest Fleur dolls from 1987 in size, but made of very soft vinyl. Typically azure blue eyes and subtle eyeshadow. Oval eyes with long lashes. Small lips that tend to fade.Flat back of head. Blush placed on the lower side of the cheeks. On photos it can be easily confused with the Ballerina fcemold.

Ballerina facemold
Ballerina facemold
Aerobic facemold
Aerobic facemold
Bighead facemold
Bighead facemold

Fleur dolls ffirst released in 1981

Fleur dolls, that were introduced to the market in 1981 probably all had the Ballerina facemold and all came on the Ballerina body (click here to see all body types Fleur dolls had).  They were mostly sold in dark green boxes with a cardboard flap at the side. 

Dolls released in 1981 were: Rainy Day, Kitties and Parade.

Rainy Day Fleur

Of Rainy Day exist at least two variants, both with the Ballerina head and body, but one with a sidepart ponytail and one with the typical Fleur flip hairstyle. It is possible, that they were released in different years. Both variants had the same box with cardboard flap that shows a promo picture of Rainy Day Fleur in red. As far as I have seen, she was only made with the Ballerina headmold (but it doesn't mean that any other variant doesn't exist). She can be identified by a glue residue that is on her head, because the hat was glued on. However she is not the only doll with glue residue...

She was made in three different colored outfits, in red, blue and brown. There are many variants of the dresses, that Fleur wears underneath her coat.

 

Rainy Day NRFB with Ballerina mold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Rainy Day NRFB with Ballerina mold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Rainy Day Fleur NRFB by Angela Mombers. 
Rainy Day Fleur NRFB by Angela Mombers. 
Close up photo of Angela's Rainy Day Fleur. Hair is styled into a Fleur flip.Ballerina facemold.
Close up photo of Angela's Rainy Day Fleur. Hair is styled into a Fleur flip.Ballerina facemold.

My Rainy Day Fleur. Balerina facemold with glue residue on the head.
My Rainy Day Fleur. Balerina facemold with glue residue on the head.
Rainy Day Fleur NRFB with side ponytail. Picture from Worthpoint.
Rainy Day Fleur NRFB with side ponytail. Picture from Worthpoint.

Parade Fleur

 Parade Fleur was first made in 1981 with the Ballerina mold sold in the box with cardboard flap. Later, probably in 1983, she was reissued with the Aerobic facemold with still long lashes and tiny lips. The second version also came in the box with cardboard flap, so I suspect that she was released in the early 83.

Parade Fleur NRFB with Ballerina facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Parade Fleur NRFB with Ballerina facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
My boxed Parade Fleur with Aerobic facemold.
My boxed Parade Fleur with Aerobic facemold.

Close Up photo of Parade Fleur with Ballerina facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Close Up photo of Parade Fleur with Ballerina facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Close up photo of my Parade Fleur with the wider Aerobic facemold.
Close up photo of my Parade Fleur with the wider Aerobic facemold.

Parade Fleur was also released with a rare facemold I call Bighead facemold, because the head is really big, comparable to the later Fleur dolls in size. She is made of very soft vinyl. But paintjob and lashes are the same as on the Ballerina facemold. I found the bighead Parade dolls loose, but the seller told me that it was her childhood doll and for sure Parade. My collector friend Patricia Ruiter also bought a brunette doll once in the Parade outfit, doll was completely new and still had the golden thread, where the baton was attached to, around her wrist. She also has the same very soft big head. I have not seen one of them boxed, so I don't know in which year they were released and in which box they came.

Later variant of Parade Fleur with the Bighead facemold.
Later variant of Parade Fleur with the Bighead facemold.
Another Parade Fleur with the Bighead facemold.
Another Parade Fleur with the Bighead facemold.
Parade Fleur owned by Patricia Ruiter with the Bighead facemold and some stronger eyeshadow.
Parade Fleur owned by Patricia Ruiter with the Bighead facemold and some stronger eyeshadow.

Kitties Fleur

 

 

 

Of Kitties I have only seen one boxed doll from the site Fleurdolls.com. She has a very unique box, where she is posed sitting with her kitties. The first version probably had the Ballerina facemold. I cannot say, if there are more than one variant of this doll (besides of course the variants of the dress, which were blue and red). Please click here to see the Kitties Fleur on Fleurdolls (extern link!). But I have recently found a loose Fleur doll wearing the Kitties dress and she had the Bighead facemold. One of the Kitties Fleur dolls in box on the Fleurdolls.com website looks to me like she could have the Bighead facemold, but I'm not completely sure. But it is possible that she was also released with this facemold, like Parade Fleur.

Fleur dolls ffirst released in 1982

Dolls , that were introduced to the market in 1982, were made with the Ballerina facemold and ballerina body and came in the box with cardboard flap. However, most of these dolls were reissued in 1983 (and maybe even 1984), and the second (and third) versions of these dolls could have either the Ballerina facemold or the wider Aerobic facemold. 

Dolls first released in 1982 were: Ballerina, My Fair Lady, Shopping, Sunny Day and In Concert.

Ballerina Fleur

The first edition of Ballerina had the Ballerina facemold with small lips. She was made with two outfit variants, a white and blue ballet dress and matching ballet shoes. She was sold in a dark green box with the cardboard flap.

She was reissued probably in 1983 in a box without the flap. She still had the Ballerina facemold, but her lips were bigger and the hair was longer. The second edition was only made wearing the white dress as far as I know. 

I recently found a Ballerina Fleur with the Bighead facemold. This version must be rare, as this is the only one I have ever seen so far.

Early blue Ballerina in box with flap, picture from Worthpoint.
Early blue Ballerina in box with flap, picture from Worthpoint.
My NRFB Ballerina from (probably 1983) in simple box.
My NRFB Ballerina from (probably 1983) in simple box.

Early blue Ballerina with Ballerina facemold, head is very small and hart.
Early blue Ballerina with Ballerina facemold, head is very small and hart.
Later white Ballerina with Ballerina facemold, head is however slightly bigger and softer than of the blue Ballerina I own.
Later white Ballerina with Ballerina facemold, head is however slightly bigger and softer than of the blue Ballerina I own.
Ballerina Fleur with the Bighead facemold I found recently.
Ballerina Fleur with the Bighead facemold I found recently.

My Fair Lady Fleur

My Fair Lady was first released in 1982 according to Fleurdolls.com, but she already came in a big box without the flap. The first edition was made with the Ballerina facemold with long lashes and small lips, the second edition, probably released in 1983 had the Aerobic facemold with long lashes and small lips. The outfits of both dolls was the same.

My Fair Lady Fleur with box probably with the Aerobic facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
My Fair Lady Fleur with box probably with the Aerobic facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Boxed My fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold. Picture borrowed from Oliviastinyworld on Instagram. To see her Instagram click the picture (extern link)
Boxed My fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold. Picture borrowed from Oliviastinyworld on Instagram. To see her Instagram click the picture (extern link)
My My fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold.
My My fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold.

Close Up of the My Fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold from Oliviastinyworld.
Close Up of the My Fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold from Oliviastinyworld.
CLose Up picture of my My fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold.
CLose Up picture of my My fair Lady Fleur with Ballerina facemold.
Close Up picture of My Fair Lady Fleur from my friend Barbara de Bruin. It is her childhood doll and has the Aerobic facemold.
Close Up picture of My Fair Lady Fleur from my friend Barbara de Bruin. It is her childhood doll and has the Aerobic facemold.

Shopping Fleur

Shopping was probably sold only in the box with cardboard flap as far as I have seen. She was first released with the Ballerina facemold in 1982 and reissued in 1983 with the Aerobic facemold. The outfit was the same. She also has glue residue on her head, like Rainy Day Fleur. However her hair was shorter than Rainy Day's. Shopping Fleur with the Aerobic facemold seems to have bigger lips than her Ballerina counterpart.

Shopping Fleur NRFB with the small Ballerina facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Shopping Fleur NRFB with the small Ballerina facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Shopping Fleur NRFB looks like to have the Aerobic facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Shopping Fleur NRFB looks like to have the Aerobic facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Shopping Fleur NRFB with the Aerobic facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Shopping Fleur NRFB with the Aerobic facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.

Picture taken from Worthpoint. Close up of Shopping Fleur with Ballerina facemold.
Picture taken from Worthpoint. Close up of Shopping Fleur with Ballerina facemold.
Close Up of a Shopping Fleur with Aerobic facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Close Up of a Shopping Fleur with Aerobic facemold. Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Close up of my Shopping Fleur with Aerobic facemold.
Close up of my Shopping Fleur with Aerobic facemold.

Sunny Day Fleur

Sunny Day Fleur was first released in a box with cardboard flap with the Ballerina facemold and tiny lips in 1982. She was later reissued with the Aerobic mold in 1983, probably in the same box although I have no proof for that. The second edition has bigger lips. She can also be identified by glue residue on the top of her head.

Picture taken from Worthpoint. Sunny Day Fleur NRFB with Ballerina facemold.
Picture taken from Worthpoint. Sunny Day Fleur NRFB with Ballerina facemold.
Sunny Day NRFB. Facemold looks like to be the small Ballerina one.Picture taken from Worthpoint.
Sunny Day NRFB. Facemold looks like to be the small Ballerina one.Picture taken from Worthpoint.

Close Up picture of Sunny Day Fleur NRFB with Ballerina facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Close Up picture of Sunny Day Fleur NRFB with Ballerina facemold. Picture from Worthpoint.
Close Up picture of my Sunny Day Fleur with Ballerina facemold.
Close Up picture of my Sunny Day Fleur with Ballerina facemold.
Close Up picture of a Sunny Day Fleur in poor condition with Aerobic facemold. Doll bought from original owner who only had this one Fleur doll as a child.
Close Up picture of a Sunny Day Fleur in poor condition with Aerobic facemold. Doll bought from original owner who only had this one Fleur doll as a child.

In Concert Fleur

In Concert Fleur was released in 1982 in a dark green box with cardboard flap. Her first (and maybe only) release had the Ballerina facemold with very tiny red lips. She can be easily identified by her sidepart hairstyle. There is only one more doll with a similar hairstyle, Famous Fashion Fleur first released in 1984. 

In Concert Fleur usually has a lot of hair styled into a half ponytail. The gown was made in two variants, one has the strap on the left and one on the right shoulder.

There exists one doll, that might be a later edition of In Concert Fleur or she might be a variant of Famous Fashion. She has the Aerobic facemold with short lashes and bigger lips. Her hair is very full in a unique chestnut brown color. I have not seen this doll NRFB yet (nor has any of the Fleur collectors I have spoken too, so she remains a mystery. However she is often found on a Standart Fleur body (not Ballerina body like In Concert doll had) and her eyecolor is navy blue instead of the azure blue used for the early Fleur dolls. This means she was probably produced in 1984, same year as Famous Fashion's first release.

In Concert Fleur NRFB with Ballerina mold and tiny lips. Picture from Worthpoint.
In Concert Fleur NRFB with Ballerina mold and tiny lips. Picture from Worthpoint.
Dark brunette In Concert Fleur NRFB with Balerina mold, picture from Worthpoint.
Dark brunette In Concert Fleur NRFB with Balerina mold, picture from Worthpoint.

Same in Concert Fleur from Worthpoint.
Same in Concert Fleur from Worthpoint.
Close Up of NRFB In Concert Fleur with Ballerina facemold and tiny lips. Picture from Worthpoint.
Close Up of NRFB In Concert Fleur with Ballerina facemold and tiny lips. Picture from Worthpoint.
Mystery Fleur dolls with Aerobic facemold, chestnut brown hair in a sidepart hairstyle.
Mystery Fleur dolls with Aerobic facemold, chestnut brown hair in a sidepart hairstyle.


In the next blog post I will present you the variants of Fleur dolls first released in 1983 and 1984. 


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