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Fleur identification-Part 1: 80s Fleur dolls

 

Many Fleur collectors know the struggle... you found this really gorgeous doll somewhere in the wild, she's in great condition...but who is she??? Fleur dolls have no marks, besides the Logo Fleurs, no date of production, nothing! So how to identify her??? Is it even possible? If you ever searched the internet for Fleur dolls, you for sure stumbled upon the Fleurdolls webpage, that is currently under construction and the corresponding blog. This blog contains also a guide on how to identify Fleur dolls. It is really amazing to start with (click here to read it).

 I however thought, that it must be possible, to narrow these dolls more down.

 

Because when you look at these two pictures, although these Fleurs both having centerpart hair, they differ so much from each other.

 

So I made my online research, examinated every doll I have very thoroughly and consulted the amazing Angela from Vintage Fleur doll, who has any doll possible (and also impossible...but that will be a different blog post... ). And after many hours and hours of work, I was able to  create the following identification chart for Fleur dolls made in the 80s.

 

The key feature  for identification is the facemold. To make yourself familiar with the facemolds of 80s Fleur doll, click please here. Than I looked on the bodytype (to see all Fleur bodytypes click here) and finally on the hair style. Like this I can narrow the dolls down to just a few. Some dolls have additional unique features, which make it possible to identify them without any doubt. Their characteristic features are described next to the doll picture. So let's start!

 

 

Ballerina facemold

slim face, small eyes, used for dolls from 1980 to 1984

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

center part hair

Rainy Day 1980

  • small orange lips
  • long lashes
  • Hair long and wavy (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • glue residue on top of hair
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Secretary 1983

  • Small orange lips
  • long lashes
  • hair short and curly (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

Kitties 1981

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • hair middle length and wavy (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

Ballerina 1982

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • short curly or wavy hair, sparely rooted (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

Florida 1983

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelength wavy hair (redish blonde, brunette)
  • tanned skin

Parade 1981

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelength curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


hair with fringe

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Baby Nurse 1984

  • small red lips
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • short, curly hair with fringe (brunette, goldenblonde, ginger)
  • also on 80s standart body

 

 

Special Offer 1983

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • very fluffy short curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted only on the outer hairline, no hairplugs in the middle


80s standart body

hair with fringe

Baby Nurse 1984

  • small red lips
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • short, open curly hair with fringe (brunette, goldenblonde, ginger)
  • also on Ballerina body

Jeans 1984

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted at outer hairline plus additional hairrow in the middle
  • unusual with this facemold, ususally made with Aerobic facemold

Aerobic facemold

wider face than Ballerina, small oval eyes, used for dolls from 1982 to 1985


Ballerina body

centerpart hair

Aerobic 1983

  • small or big lips in orange or red
  • long lashes, strongly curled
  • many haircolors (different shades of blonde, ginger and brunette)
  • different rooting patterns
  • typical strand of hair rooted behind the ears
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Miss World 1984

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelength wavy hair, only brunette (promotional picture with blonde hair)
  • pierced ears

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Popstar 1985

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • short wavy hair, sparly rooted only at upper half of the head (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

My Fair Lady 1982

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelength wavy hair, only blonde?

Wedding 1983

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • Middlelength curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

Shopping 1982

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • short, curly hair (blonde, ginger, brunette)
  • glue residue on top of head

Sunny Day 1982

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • short or middlelength wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)

sidepart hair

In Concert 1982

  • big red lips
  • middlelong lashes
  • long, very full wavy  hair (paleblonde, hazelnut brown, ginger)

Famous Fashion 1984

  • big red lips
  • middlong lashes
  • very long, sparely rooted wavy hair (paleblonde, dark brunette, ginger)
  • comes also on 80s standart body
  • was also made later with Sunshine facemold!

80s Standart body

Sidepart hair

Famous Fashion 1984

  • big red lips
  • middlelong lashes
  • very long, sparely rooted wavy hair (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • comes also Ballerina body
  • was also made later with Sunshine facemold!

hair with fringe

Jeans 1984

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted at outer hairline plus additional hairrow in the middle
  • Was also made with Ballerina facemold!

Tennisstar facemold

wider face than Aerobic especially around the cheeks, head alltogether bigger, small round eyes, subtle eyeshadow, used for dolls from 1985 to 1986

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

Centerpart hair

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Jazz Ballet first edition 1985

  • small red lips
  • short to middlelong lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • Long wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)

Brides Happiness first edition 1985

  • big red lips
  • short lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Travel 1985

  • small red lips
  • short lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Amazone first edition 1985

  • big or small red lips
  • short lashes
  • no eyeshadow
  • wavy middlelong hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Jogging first edition 1985

  • big lips
  • short lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Tennisstar 1985

  • small red lips
  • short lashes
  • no eyeshadow
  • short wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Special Offer 1986

  • small red lips
  • short lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • short, wavy hair, sparly rooted (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • very soft head

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Surfing 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • stronger eyeshadow
  • long curly hair, very full (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)

Colourstar facemold

faceshape as Tennisstar, bigger oval eyes with longer lashes, heavier make up, used for doll made end of 1985 to 1986

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

Centerpart hair

Jazz Ballet second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Brides Happiness second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • very long lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

 

 

 


Bubblecut

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Colourstar 1985

  • big red lips
  • very long lashes
  • very strong eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • short platinum curly bubblecut with colored streak at the front (yellow, pink, blue)

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Animal Doctor 1986

  • big red lips
  • long, heavily curled lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

College 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes, less curled
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Grand Gala 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes, less curled
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)

 

Amazone second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • wavy long hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Tennisstar second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • short wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Sunshine facemold

head bigger than Colourstar, cheeks area wider, make up subtler, used for dolls in 1987


Ballerina Body

Centerpart hair

Sunshine 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • very long, straight hair, ususally in platinum blonde, but more rare also in ginger/honeyblonde
  • tanned skin

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Mount Everest 1987

  • big red lips
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Jogging second edition 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Country Walk 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • short wavy hair (platinum, honeyblonde)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Sweet Dreams 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (platinum)

My First 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle or missing eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (only brunette?)

Tennis 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyesahdow
  • short wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Conclusion

By studying the facemold, the facial features, the hair style and the body you will be able to identify most of your dolls or at least to narrow them down to only a few. Otto Simon did use for some models the same dolls, but most of them are unique.

 

As always with Fleur dolls it's not always as easy at it seems... you will not be able to identify every doll with this chart. Sometimes Otto Simon used a batch of newer dolls for an older model and made a second, third or fourth edition. Some dolls from the early 80s, that supposed to be in a dark green box can be found in a light green box with no doll name written on it, probably from 1987. ... these dolls have for sure a later facemold and will not have a match in this chart. Also there are dolls, that shouldn't  exist, but here they are totally real...the unidentifiable mystery Fleurs. If you have a mystery Fleur, please let me know!!! A blog post about them will follow soon.

 

 

A special THANK YOU goes to Angela from Vintage Fleur doll, who made this Indentification chart possible by providing me her knowledge, comparing dolls that I don't own to identify their facemolds and by letting me use pictures of her dolls for this blog post. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

 

 

 

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