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Fleur identification-Part 1: 80s Fleur dolls

 

Many Fleur collectors know the struggle... you found this really gorgeous doll somewhere in the wild, she's in great condition...but who is she??? Fleur dolls have no marks, besides the Logo Fleurs, no date of production, nothing! So how to identify her??? Is it even possible? If you ever searched the internet for Fleur dolls, you for sure stumbled upon the Fleurdolls webpage, that is currently under construction and the corresponding blog. This blog contains also a guide on how to identify Fleur dolls. It is really amazing to start with (click here to read it).

 I however thought, that it must be possible, to narrow these dolls more down.

 

Because when you look at these two pictures, although these Fleurs both having centerpart hair, they differ so much from each other.

 

So I made my online research, examinated every doll I have very thoroughly and consulted the amazing Angela from Vintage Fleur doll, who has any doll possible (and also impossible...but that will be a different blog post... ). And after many hours and hours of work, I was able to  create the following identification chart for Fleur dolls made in the 80s.

 

The key feature  for identification is the facemold. To make yourself familiar with the facemolds of 80s Fleur doll, click please here. Than I looked on the bodytype (to see all Fleur bodytypes click here) and finally on the hair style. Like this I can narrow the dolls down to just a few. Some dolls have additional unique features, which make it possible to identify them without any doubt. Their characteristic features are described next to the doll picture. 

This blog post is a work in progress as the more I learn about Fleur, the more dolls I own, the more variants I see which I am adding fluently.

 

 

Ballerina facemold

smallest head, flat back of head, slim face, small azure blue eyes, used for dolls from 1980 to 1984

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

center part hair

Rainy Day 1980

  • small orange or red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong wavy hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • glue residue on top of hair where hat was glued on

Secretary 1983

  • Small orange or red lips
  • long lashes
  • hair short and wavy (blonde, brunette, ginger)
  • pale eyebrows
  • often greasy face
  • skintone tends to darken due to aging

Kitties 1981

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • hair short and curly (blonde, brunette, ginger). 

Ballerina 1982

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • short or middlelong wavy hair, sparely rooted, layered haircut (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

Florida 1983

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • long wavy hair (strawberryblonde, pale blonde, brunette)
  • tanned skin

Parade 1981

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


My Fair Lady 1982 first edition

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong wavy hair, pale blonde with this facemold. 
  • was also made with the Aerobic facemold

Aerobic 1983 first edition

  • small or big lips in orange or red
  • long lashes, 
  • goldenblonde, brunette, red
  • different rooting patterns
  • typical strand of hair rooted behind the ears
  • Rare with this facemold, usually with the Aerobic facemold

Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.
Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.

Shopping 1982 first edition

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong curly hair in blonde, ginger and brunette
  • also made with Aerobic facemold as second edition
Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.
Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.

Sunny Day 1982 first edition

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • long curly hair in blonde, ginger and brunette
  • also made with Aerobic facemold as second run

Wedding 1983

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • Middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • glue residue on hair
  • probably also made with Aerobic facemold

hair with fringe

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Baby Nurse 1984 first edition

  • small red lips
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • short, curly hair with fringe (brunette, goldenblonde, ginger)
  • also with Aerobic facemold

 

 

Special Offer 1983

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • very fluffy short curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted only on the outer hairline, no hairplugs in the middle
  • arms don't bend

Sidepart hair

Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.
Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.

In Concert 1982 first edition

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • long, very full hair (dark brown, blonde, ginger)

80s standart body

hair with fringe

Jeans 1984

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted at outer hairline plus additional hairrow in the middle
  • unusual with this facemold, ususally made with Aerobic facemold

Bighead Facemold

Very big head made of soft vinyl, small azure blue eyes, long lashes, small red lips that tend to fade, used for dolls made in 1981-1982


Ballerina body

Center part hair

Parade 1981

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kitties 1981

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • hair short and curly (blonde, brunette, ginger). 

Ballerina 1982

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • short or middlelong wavy hair, sparely rooted, layered haircut (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

Aerobic facemold

wider face than Ballerina, somehow flat, small azure blue or navy blue oval eyes, used for dolls from 1983 to 1984


Ballerina body

centerpart hair

Aerobic 1983 and later second edition

  • small or big lips in orange or red
  • long lashes, strongly curled
  • many haircolors (different shades of blonde, ginger and brunette)
  • different rooting patterns
  • typical strand of hair rooted behind the ears
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Miss World 1983/1984

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong wavy hair, only brunette (promotional picture with blonde hair)
  • pierced ears

Popstar 1983

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • short wavy hair, sparly rooted only at upper half of the head (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)

My Fair Lady 1983  second edition

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong wavy hair, honey blonde with this facemold.
  • was also made with the Ballerina facemold.

Wedding 1983

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • Middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • glie residue on hair
  • also made with the Ballerina facemold

Shopping 1983 second edition

  • small or big red lips
  • usually short lashes
  • short, curly hair (blonde, ginger, brunette)
  • glue residue on top of head

Sunny Day 1983 second edition

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong curly hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)

Parade Fleur second edition

  • azure blue eyes
  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • middlelong wavy hair (brunette, blonde, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Travel 1985

  • small red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (honeyblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • fading eyebows often

Hair with fringe

photo by Angela
photo by Angela

Baby Nurse 1984 second edition

  • big red lips
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • short, open curly hair with fringe (brunette, goldenblonde, ginger)
  • also with Ballerina facemold

80s Standart body

Sidepart hair

Famous Fashion 1984

  • big red lips
  • middlelong lashes
  • very long, sparely rooted wavy hair (paleblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • was also made later with Sunshine facemold!

hair with fringe

Jeans 1984

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • curly ponytail with fringe (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
  • Rooted at outer hairline plus additional hairrow in the middle
  • Was also made with Ballerina facemold!

Tennisstar facemold

wider face than Aerobic with rounder cheeks, head alltogether bigger, small round eyes, subtle eyeshadow, used for dolls from 1985 to 1986

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

Centerpart hair

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Jazz Ballet first edition 1985

  • small red lips
  • short to middlelong lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • Long wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)

Brides Happiness first edition 1985

  • big red lips
  • short lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Amazone first edition 1985

  • big or small red lips
  • short lashes
  • no eyeshadow
  • wavy middlelong hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Jogging first edition 1985

  • big lips
  • short lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Tennisstar 1985

  • small red lips
  • short lashes
  • no eyeshadow
  • short wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Special Offer 1986

  • small red lips
  • short lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • short, wavy hair, sparly rooted (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)
  • very soft head

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Surfing 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • stronger eyeshadow
  • long curly hair, very full (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)

Colourstar facemold

faceshape as Tennisstar, bigger oval eyes with longer lashes, heavier make up, used for dolls made end of 1985 to 1986

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Ballerina body

Centerpart hair

Jazz Ballet second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (blonde, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Brides Happiness second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • very long lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

 

 

 


Bubblecut

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Colourstar 1985

  • big red lips
  • very long lashes
  • very strong eyeshadow
  • heavy blush
  • short platinum curly bubblecut with colored streak at the front (yellow, pink, blue)

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Animal Doctor 1986

  • big red lips
  • long, heavily curled lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

College 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes, less curled
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Grand Gala 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes, less curled
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (goldenblond, brunette, ginger)

 

Amazone second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • strong eyeshadow
  • wavy long hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Tennisstar second edition 1986

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • short wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Sunshine facemold

head bigger than Colourstar, cheeks area wider, make up subtler, used for dolls in 1987


Ballerina Body

Centerpart hair

Sunshine 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • very long, straight hair, ususally in platinum blonde, but more rare also in ginger/honeyblonde
  • tanned skin

80s standart body

Centerpart hair

Mount Everest 1987

  • big red lips
  • long, strongly curled lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Jogging second edition 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong curly hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Country Walk 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • short wavy hair (platinum, honeyblonde)
Photo by Angela
Photo by Angela

Sweet Dreams 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyeshadow
  • middlelong wavy hair (platinum, honeyblonde)

Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.
Source Worthpoint.com. Owner unknown.

My First 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle or missing eyeshadow
  • long wavy hair (only brunette?)

Tennis 1987

  • big red lips
  • long lashes
  • subtle eyesahdow
  • short wavy hair (goldenblonde, brunette, ginger)

By studying the facemold, the facial features, the hair style and the body you will be able to identify most of your dolls or at least to narrow them down to only a few. Otto Simon did use for some models the same dolls, but most of them are unique.

 

As always with Fleur dolls it's not always as easy at it seems... you will not be able to identify every doll with this chart. Sometimes Otto Simon used a batch of newer dolls for an older model and made a second, third or fourth edition. Some dolls from the early 80s, that supposed to be in a dark green box can be found in a light green box with no doll name written on it, probably from 1987. ... these dolls have for sure a later facemold and will not have a match in this chart. Also there are dolls, that shouldn't  exist, but here they are totally real...the unidentifiable mystery Fleurs. If you have a mystery Fleur, please let me know!!! A blog post about them will follow soon.

 

 

A special THANK YOU goes to Angela from Vintage Fleur doll, who made this Indentification chart possible by providing me her knowledge, comparing dolls that I don't own to identify their facemolds and by letting me use pictures of her dolls for this blog post. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

 

 

 

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